Lucid & Sober Dreaming

By Phoenix of Elder Mountain –
The word Lucid, in the 1500s was written down and meant a person who was “bright and shining” a sense that is now obsolete or restricted.  Lucid comes from the Latin word lucidus meaning “light” “bright” and “clear” and figuratively from lucere “to shine” from lux (genitive lucis) and “light” from its root *leuk- “to shine and be bright.” It was marked though early on and lost its Soul context from then on and within 200 years, the new meanings of Lucid was then referred to as intellectual clarity, first recorded in 1786.

This was the new context of Lucid in intervals of the “period of calm or temporary sanity” which is from the Medieval Latin lucida intervalla (plural), common in medieval legal documents (non est compos mentis, sed gaudet lucidis intervallis, etc.). The notion probably meant a period of calm and clear before the insanity or the storm hits in legal matters.

After the 1930s it was and still is referred to an unstable state of being that is associated with being (high) or mental issues associated with medications that have strong drugs effects. Recently after the 2000s its now associated with “dream/drugging” and the false visions especially from the uses of shamanic drug/plants and pot which nowadays, has superpowers from streamlined genetic organic altering when growing.

My job as a dreamer (shaman) is to let dreamers know that Illusions are the most difficult part of dreaming and as a teacher I align with the serious dreamers who seek disciplines, groundedness and self healing as a path along with sobriety. My friend Steve who follows these blogs wrote me today with an excellent Dylan song he felt was appropriate and I agreed …

“There’s a white diamond gloom
on the dark side of this room
and a pathway that leads
up to the stars.

If you don’t believe there’s a price
for this sweet paradise, remind me
to show you the scars.”

Nobody out there is teaching sobriety dreaming, but to advance in real dreaming, its impossible without sobriety, otherwise you only reach the first gate and never move beyond the illusion tests (which means you think your dreaming at greater levels when you are not). Drugs and shamanic drugs (plants) only distort illusion layers, but the dreamer believes that they are outside the box of projection dreaming (when they are not). This is why Illusion work in dreaming must match real and personal illusions of our ordinary life that we carry as people in family life, our relationships, our challenges.

The last time many people have been purely sober was before they turned 14 years old and so getting pure is a very difficult journey in itself. I also work with those who are finished with the accumulated negative side-effects of drug/plant visioning because their personal life gets and stays erratic and chaotic from such paths, especially after they enter their 40s.  I teach by example that clarity and the shining path (lucid) of spirituality, is much more advanced when we are clear, both in our personal lives and relationships (emotional body) and our advancements in all the levels of dreaming.

When it comes to dreaming and lucidity, I use the word Lucid in its original meaning of light and in the metaphysical terms, a process of using our ability to “image” as a dream practice from sobriety and clarity to become much more advanced than our brothers and sisters who dabble in illusion causing substances (like dmt, shamanic plant-drugs, pot, alcohol, medications etc).

I am referring to the ability to not only live the waking life clear and sober but enter the sober clarity of our soul’s “imagination” which is a process of taking what does not exist (the non-physical reality) and make it reality or become the great observer. This can be applied to baking a cake or building a bridge in the physical world and it can be applied to lucid dreaming and dreams in the energetic world (emotional energy, feelings, etc and our soul energy world where we dream). Its all the same principles and practices and they do cross over, bridge crossing I call it.


The first rule of metaphysics is:

“Whatever you focus on… expands” and this is also true for Lucid Dreaming. One technique to help lucidity increase in the natural non-drug, non-shamanic way, is sitting quietly in a daily meditation, looking at a peaceful image of nature (or sitting in nature in the practice), along with putting a natural organic scent on (that you only use for this practice). Its a daily practice of saturation of both visuals and sensory. I have seen it take some people 4 years of this daily practice to flex the intuitive and dreaming soul body, for others, its a much shorter time. Some have used mirror to see the self, instead of an image of nature.

There is “no time” in dreaming and its wise to set aside mind-body teachings when trying to work with dreaming in this context. We actually have to learn and practice no-time (no schedules, no alarm clocks, flexible lifestyles) in order to advance. I think so many people have not given themselves any time to dream in their life, but anything worth mastering in life is always done slowly, grounded (one step in front of the next) and focused with clarity (lucid) and hard work of dedication. Same too for many levels of dreaming.

Eventually with enough practices, the mind-body will become peaceful, enough to let go, so the dreaming soul can speak and it speaks in its “living” reality of waking or night dreaming, but its very subtle, that is why sobriety and clarity is needed. Our emotional & soul body is not given much attention by ordinary people who like to keep busy all the time – but for some of us, its very important to give quality our intuitive nature along with sobriety, to be “clear and bright” in our daily spiritual life.

At small levels this is called trusting your intuition, at greater levels its called Lucid Dreaming. The trick of course is consistency and the practices of learning to expand and accepting this natural part of our inner life. Some practice this naturally with nature, like long hikes in the mountains, others do a more intense version like vision quests. Artists also do it through their daily or weekly art-making, but those who are serious go beyond all of those because they understand its about their soul nature.


Some do these practices for emotional health’s well being which adds inner power beyond the will, to overcome old behaviors that have become so automatic over ten or twenty years. Behaviors like worry, stress, anxiety, mental blocks etc. which become very difficult to change, without the power of the soul. The first holistic rule is: “We cannot heal anything that we are not aware of.” Lucidity on any levels, waking or dreaming, helps us become aware of what we need to heal within.

Addictions are addictions and as a healer, I always suggest those who are under the “spells” of illusion causing substances, seek help, get massages, find a sober healer and begin to take care of your addiction without shame or judgment. We get one life this lifetime, try not to waste all of your senses by dulling them with such things, they might just save your life someday.




7 Comments Add yours

  1. saymber says:

    Thank for this post. With the world our society has built, sleep and dreaming is a very elusive thing. I value my dream experiences very much!

    Liked by 1 person

    1. Thanks sayamber… when nobody is saying it out in the world, in regards to the body which is effected the most (our soul and emotional body which dreams), i feel its important and worth sharing for that reason alone.

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  2. Steve Zubo says:

    “There’s a white diamond gloom on the dark side of this room and a pathway that leads
    up to the stars.
    If you don’t believe there’s a price for this sweet paradise, remind me to show you the

    The above quote was from a Bob Dylan song called “where are you tonight” – I saw it in a post in face book – i guess Friday. Yesterday, I was in the Town square of Woodstock, Illinois & I as was pulling out of that parking spot & that song came on and played. I have a couple of older iPods all filled with songs & I just keep them on shuffle – so I don’t know what’s going to play next. So that song played next.

    So today a friend sent me an e mail — saying how optimistic i should be … blah b;ah blah – for whatever reason – I replied — no, not today, sorry. He didn’t replay or anything.

    Later for whatever reason – I remembered the above quote and sent that to him — It was perfect.
    “There’s a white diamond gloom on the dark side of this room and a pathway that leads
    up to the stars.
    If you don’t believe there’s a price for this sweet paradise, remind me to show you the
    scars. ”

    He didn’t reply to that either. But when I read this article, Phoenix – it all came back to be – the Synchronicity of the songs and the words. & the revery of it all returning. & I felt blessed or something.

    Liked by 1 person

    1. you are amazing steve! keep up your path with self love, it always makes us clear and shining bright! : ) i think your great!


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